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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS -- FAQ
How long does
it take to ski to a hut?
Travel time varies greatly depending on the difficulty of the
route, personal ability, and weather conditions. A general rule
of thumb is to estimate one mile per hour and an additional hour
for every thousand feet of vertical gain. On clear days, when
a trail has already been broken-out, most groups will travel faster
than this, but in low visibility or if there is no broken trail,
it can take even longer.
You must evaluate your own capabilities. Strap
a full pack on your back and take a test hike or ski tour. Keep
in mind that route finding, water breaks, taking off or putting
on layers, and adjusting gear often add considerable time to a
trip.
Route times are estimated in Louis W. Dawson's
book Colorado 10th Mountain Huts & Trails
and Brian Litz's Colorado Hut to Hut, both available from
the 10th Mountain Store (to access the store, use the "shop"
links on
this page's main menu.)
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Can I snowshoe
to the huts?
Yes, traveling to the huts on snowshoes is an option. If you are
not a confident backcountry skier or are new to traveling with
a pack in the winter, snowshoes could be a good choice. Travel
by snowshoes can be slower and more tiring than skiing, especially
in deep, untracked snow. If you are not an experienced skier,
however, attempting to ski with a pack in similar conditions could
be even more difficult, making snowshoes a more enjoyable and
efficient option. The choice is up to you!
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Are
snowmobiles allowed to access the huts?
10th Mountain strongly discourages the use of snowmobiles for
access to the huts. The hut system was created for non-motorized
travel and snowmobile use detracts from this unique experience.
Most of the huts are located on U.S. Forest Service land, which
is managed for a variety of recreational uses, including snowmobiling.
Each hut, however, is surrounded by a USFS non-motorized envelope
into which you cannot bring a snowmobile. Most envelope boundaries
restrict access around the huts for 1/8 to 1/2 mile, although
several huts have larger envelopes. Snowmobiles are not allowed
in Wilderness Areas, or on private land without permission.
Relying on motorized support for a hut trip
can be risky. Routes can be or become impassable to snowmobiles
in deep, unpacked snow. Mechanical problems are also a concern.
Please note that if a single snowmobile track exists to a hut,
other snowmobilers will follow it, causing annoyance to hut users
long after the original machines have gone. PLEASE DO NOT USE
A SNOWMOBILE TO GET YOURSELF OR YOUR EQUIPMENT TO A HUT.
Don't think you can make it to the hut without
motorized support? Consider the following ideas:
- Hire a guide to carry the heaviest load.
- Choose a less challenging route.
- Lighten your pack.
- Start a fitness program.
- Plan a trip in the future when you are more
prepared.
If you would like to avoid areas with high
snowmobile use, choose travel routes through Wilderness areas
where snowmobiles are not allowed. You may also choose the Betty
Bear Hut, Sangree M. Froelicher Hut, Jackal Hut, or Vance's Cabin, as portions
of the suggested routes to these huts are inaccessible to snowmobiles,
or are closed to snowmobiles. You might want to avoid huts in
the Vail Pass area, especially on weekends, since this area has
heavy recreation use including snowmobile traffic.
Are snowmobiles allowed to access the Alfred A. Braun Huts?
The Alfred Braun Hut System was designed to be a back-country SKI system. As such the Alfred Braun Hut System strongly discourages the use of snowmobiles for access to the huts. The hut system was created for non-motorized travel. As such, snowmobile use can often detract from this unique experience. Our huts are located on U.S. Forest Service land, and each hut has unique travel management restrictions as governed by Forest Service Travel Management Plans. Around the immediate environs of each Alfred Braun Hut is a USFS developed recreation site envelope with snowmobile restrictions. Access to and from each hut is managed within the Developed Recreation Site Boundary. Snowmobiles should not drive to the front door of any hut. There are no snowmobile play areas within the Developed Recreation Site boundaries. Snowmobiles are not allowed in Wilderness Areas, or on private land without permission. In the winter of 2008-2009, the fines for snowmobiling in the Wilderness Areas were $550 per snowmobile. You must know where you are if you expect to remain legal and safe. PLEASE DO NOT USE A SNOWMOBILE TO GET YOURSELF OR YOUR EQUIPMENT TO A HUT.
The unique constraints upon snowmobiles at each of the Braun Huts:
Lindley Hut: Forest Service Special Order Closure to motorized traffic on the Iron Mine Road (except for administrative uses or adjacent landowners). The route is therefore closed to snowmobiles for the last 2 ½ miles to the hut. The Iron Mine Road begins at the bridge over Castle Creek, where there is a locked (for vehicles) gate.
Markley Hut: Express Creek Road is crossed by numerous active avalanche paths from Ashcroft Mountain, often resulting in steep, hard side hills which make snowmobile travel extremely tenuous. Consequently, the area is not a popular snowmobile destination or route. The Markley hut is surrounded by a developed hut site boundary envelope which extends approximately a half mile from the hut.
Tagert and Green-Wilson Huts: Located a hundred yards apart, these huts are protected by a winter-time motorized use closure of the Pearl Pass road from its intersection with the Montezuma basin road (a ¼ mile below the huts). In addition, the Maroon Bells Wilderness area is adjacent to the Pearl Pass road (within 10 feet of the road). Snowmobiles may be encountered on the Castle Creek/Montezuma basin portion of the access route.
Goodwin Greene Hut: This hut sits on a “cherry-stemmed” road surrounded by the Collegiate Peaks Wilderness Area. It is further protected by a developed hut site envelope, which begins at the saddle the road crosses above the hut, a ¼ mile south of the hut. With the Wilderness Boundary and the terrain surrounding the hut, snowmobile travel from the ridge down to the hut is not possible without incursion into the Wilderness.
The Barnard Hut: This hut sits near the Richmond Ridge Road, which is open to snowmobile use from the Aspen Mountain Ski Area. The road parallels the Collegiate Peaks Wilderness boundary, which lies east of the road. There is a Developed Hut Site Boundary envelope in the immediate vicinity of the hut. Of all the Braun Huts, this is the hut at which you are most likely to encounter snowmobiles along the Richmond Ridge Road. If you have a situation which requires snowmobile support due to age or a disability, this is the one Braun system hut which could accommodate such a use. Snowmobiles are not allowed at the hut itself. Please call for more information.
If you encounter snowmobiles in restricted areas (Wilderness, within the developed hut recreation sites around the huts, or on the administratively closed roads like the Iron Mine road or the Pearl Pass Road) please get a photograph, a name of the operator and the registration number from the snowmobile, if possible. This information can then be used to follow up with future enforcement actions. For maps of specific hut boundaries for the Alfred A. Braun Huts please click on the individual huts on our Huts & Routes page here.
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What
is the Vail Pass Fee?
The Vail Pass Fee is a use fee charged for winter recreation
in the Vail Pass area. This area includes the following huts:
Janet's
Cabin, Shrine Mountain Inn (Jay's, Chuck's, and Walter's), Fowler-Hilliard
Hut, and Jackal Hut. If you are booking a winter trip to any
of
these huts, the fee will be charged at the time you make your
reservation.
Hut users pay one fee per night of hut booking,
instead of per day as area day users do. For example, if you were
going to spend Friday night at the Jackal Hut you would only have
to pay once, instead of paying for Friday and Saturday. The fee
is for use in the area, not for parking at Vail Pass. It does
not matter which trailhead you use to access the huts in this
area, or where you park your car. The fee is $6.00 per adult.
Children 14 and under are free.
10th Mountain supports the fee program and
believes that it has helped to protect the rights of non-motorized
users. The money collected goes directly back to the Vail Pass
management area to pay for maps designating specific areas to
be used by each user group, trail signs, and U. S. Forest Service
rangers who patrol the area.
If you have any questions or comments regarding the fee program,
please
contact Don Dressler via email drdressler@fs.fed.us.
Public comments about the fees and program
are critical to evaluating the
success of the program. Contact Holy Cross Ranger District for
comments and
further information such as maps designating the specific areas.
USFS Vail Pass Field Coordinator.
The Holy Cross Ranger District
PO Box 190
Minturn Colorado 81645
970/827-5715
Vail Pass Map
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How
many huts should my trip include?
Most groups spend one or more nights at the same hut, though experienced
groups can link multiple huts in one trip. Each hut in the system
is accessible from its own trailhead or trailheads. While many
of the routes to the huts are moderate in difficulty, most of
the routes between the huts are longer and more difficult. In
winter, a hut-to-hut trip can require very advanced navigation
and route finding skills in addition to good skiing ability and
physical strength. If you are unfamiliar with the huts, we recommend
spending multiple nights at one hut instead traveling between
huts, especially in winter. This way, if the route was harder
than you had anticipated or you get blisters, you aren't faced
with an even harder second day. More experienced hut users planning
long, hut-to-hut trips often schedule layover days for rest or
to take advantage of the surrounding terrain for skiing, hiking,
and biking.
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Are the suggested
routes marked or maintained?
Summer routes are not marked. In the winter, suggested routes
are only intermittently marked with blue diamonds, except within
Wilderness Areas where they are intermittently marked with tree
blazes. From one trail marker, the next marker is usually not
visible, so route finding may be the most important skill you'll
need for a successful trip. Many alternate routes also access
the huts - these are usually unmarked and are not designated on
10th Mountain brochures or official maps.
Routes are not maintained in the winter, so
do not expect to find a broken or groomed trail. Even shorter
trips with minimal elevation gains can become very challenging
in whiteout conditions or if you have to break trail through fresh
snow. Map and compass skills are essential. Detailed topographic
maps are available through local mountain shops or the 10th Mountain
Store (use menu on this page). If you are interested in taking
a class to improve your map and compass skills, 10th Mountain
and other organizations occasionally offer navigation workshops
at the huts. Please check the Education section of this site for
more information (use menu on this page).
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Where
can I purchase maps?
10th Mountain produces topographic maps specifically for hut use.
These maps are available from our reservations office at 970-925-5775
and from the 10th Mountain Store (see menu on this page). Official
10th Mountain maps are also sold at a variety of outdoor retailers
in Colorado including Front Range REI stores.
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Are
there detailed guidebooks for the huts?
While 10th Mountain staff cannot plan your trip for you, guidebooks
offer a
good option for hut users seeking expert advice and suggestions
on
itineraries. These books are an excellent resource for learning
about
different route options and researching trips. The authors also
provide
estimations of route difficulty and travel time, as well as many
helpful
hints and suggestions.
The
Official Guide to Hiking and Mountain Biking the Hut System,
by Scott Messina
This detailed book includes history of each 10th Mountain Division
Hut Association Hut, complete route descriptions to and between
the huts, must-do
adventures
from
the huts,
reservation information, suggested multi-day hut trips, great
single
track rides, day hikes, rock climbing and more!
The
10th Mountain Hut Book
By Warren Ohlrich. A winter guide to all 10th Mountain
and Summit huts. Contains route descriptions, maps, photos, trip
information, checklists and more.
Colorado
Backcountry Skiing, by Louis Dawson
Covers the Elk
and Sawatch Ranges including the Braun and Friends huts
and surrounding area.
This is the best resource available for the serious backcountry
skier looking
for a true ski mountaineering guidebook. Provides the
most details for Braun Huts and Friends Hut. For a huge
amount of info, see Dawson's backcountry
skiing website. Also, not that Dawson authored the original guidebook for our huts, and has published his book on the web as his online 10th Mountain Huts Guidebook.
Colorado
Hut to Hut, Volume 1, by Brian Litz
Sold in two volumes, this guidebook covers huts, yurts,
and cabins throughout the State of Colorado. Volume 1 includes
all
the huts that are booked through 10th Mountain - the 10th Mountain
system, Braun huts, and Friends hut.
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Can I hire a guide?
Several guide services offer trips to the huts. These businesses
operate under special use permit with the US Forest Service. Hiring
a guide can be a great way to experience the huts, especially
if you are a first time hut user or someone looking to experience
more interesting routes and challenging hut-to-hut trips. In addition
to guiding you on your trip, these services can also deal with
logistics such as car shuttles and meals. It is not legal to pay
someone to accompany you to the hut, deliver your equipment, prepare
your meals, etc. if they do not have a US Forest service permit.
Please see the Guides and Transport section of this site for a
list of permitted guide services (see menu at top of page).
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Why are the summer
and winter routes different?
Winter routes to the huts often contain sections of cross-country
travel, whereas summer routes follow established roads and trails.
Winter snowpack makes off-road, off-trail travel more feasible.
Obstacles such as water and dense vegetation can make winter routes
impassible during the summer. Summer routes are not marked, however,
they are indicated on summer maps produced by 10th Mountain. Winter
routes are intermittently marked with blue diamonds, except in
Wilderness Areas where they are intermittently marked with tree
blazes.
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Can
I drive to a hut in the summer?
10th Mountain strongly discourages the use of motorized vehicles
for access to the huts, except as group support vehicles for hikers
or bikers. The hut system was created for non-motorized travel
and we encourage everyone to reach the hut under their own power.
If your group does use a support vehicle, be advised that each
hut is surrounded by a Forest Service enforced, non-motorized
envelope into which you cannot bring a vehicle. Most envelope
boundaries restrict access around the huts for 1/8 to 1/2 mile,
although several huts have much larger envelopes.
If you must drive, four-wheel drive vehicles
with high clearance are recommended for all routes. The one exception
is the Shrine Pass Road, which is usually passable for all vehicles.
The roads to the Jackal and 10th Mountain Division huts are particularly
steep and hazardous and 10th Mountain does not recommend driving
to these huts.
Vehicle access to the huts is not always possible.
After storms, mud can make many routes impassable. Be prepared
with backpacks, hiking boots, raingear and warm clothes, in case
you have to hike into or out of a hut due to road conditions or
mechanical problems. The U. S. Forest Service, not 10th Mountain,
controls the gates on the roads that lead to the huts. Gates are
sometimes locked, especially early or late in the season, due
to road conditions and snow. Hagerman Pass in particular tends
to open late and close early. After winters with heavy snowfall,l
it has opened as late as mid-August. Additionally, the road to
the 10th Mountain hut is periodically closed in the summer season
due to road damage and bad conditions. Please keep all of this
in mind when planning your trip and be prepared to travel to the
hut under your own power. 10th Mountain does not encourage or
guarantee vehicle access to the huts.
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Can I bring horses
or pack animals to the huts in the summer?
Please see Guidelines
For Horses and Pack Animals.
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What
do I do in an emergency?
Self-rescue is the responsibility of your group. If a member
of your group is injured on the trail or at the hut, you cannot
rely
on outside help. Your group must be prepared and equipped for
a bivouac, rescue, evacuation, equipment repair and any other
unexpected mishap. Every group should have complete first aid
and repair kits. The County Sheriff should be contacted in the
event
of an emergency. County
Sheriff phone numbers.
Before your trip, leave the following information
with a responsible friend or relative:
- Your automobile make and license plate,
the trailhead you will be parking at and the appropriate county
sheriffs phone number (see below).
- Your exact travel plans, including dates,
huts to be used, ski routes and your plans in the case of an
emergency.
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Will the cost
of a rescue be paid for if I have Colorado Outdoor Recreation
Search and Rescue (CORSAR) card or a hunting or fishing license?
If you are involved in a rescue and are in possession of one of
these cards or licenses, the rescue group that comes to your aid
is eligible for reimbursement from the Colorado Search and Rescue
Fund. 10th Mountain strongly recommends that anyone who visits
the huts purchase a CORSAR card if they don't hold a current hunting
or fishing license. In addition to providing reimbursement in
the event you are involved in a rescue, the cost of these cards
supports search and rescue groups and outdoor safety education
programs in the State. CORSAR cards are available in a $3.00 annual
card or a $12.00 five-year card and can be purchased from 10th
Mountain directly, from the CORSAR website as well as at most sporting goods stores and
some supermarkets. More CORSAR
details.
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Where can I take
classes in first aid or backcountry safety?
You can get adequate first aid training by taking the requisite
courses for an American Red Cross advanced first aid certification.
Contact your local chapter of the Red Cross for details. Hut
users who frequently travel in the backcountry should consider
training that goes beyond standard first aid. The Wilderness
Medicine Institute is a good place to start if you're looking
for such training. Also check your local college. For example,
Colorado Mountain College provides the Aspen area with quite
a bit of first aid training, and includes a variety of programs
such as a graphic
design school and photography college.
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Is
my car safe at the trailhead?
A few acts of vandalism and theft have been reported at some of
the hut trailheads. The Crane Park and Turquoise Lake Trailheads
near Leadville have been the hardest hit. We are also aware of
incidents within the last few years at the Tennessee Pass, Pando,
Camp Hale, and South Turquoise Lake Trailheads. 10th Mountain
has been working with the Lake County Sheriff's Department in
Leadville (719-486-1249) for a number of years to address this
problem. Patrols have been increased and the Turquoise Lake trailhead
was moved to a more visible location with lighting.
Do not leave valuables in your car, and try
to park your group's oldest or least conspicuous vehicle at the
trailhead. Consider parking in a populated area, then using a
shuttle service or having someone drop you off at the trailhead.
Also, make sure to park at the designated trailhead. Driving in
and parking along the road puts your vehicle at greater risk for
vandalism and it may be plowed-in or towed. If your vehicle is
broken into or damaged, please report the incident to both the
local Sheriff's Department and 10th Mountain.
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Is
transportation available to or from the trailheads?
Yes, a number of companies offer transportation services. See
guides and transport.
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Will
my cell phone work at the huts?
A cellular phone can be extremely helpful in the event of an emergency
but cannot be relied upon. Communication is available only on
some segments of the trails and only at some of the huts. From
our experience, reception can vary, depending on location and
quality of the phone. We ask that you keep the phone in the bottom
of your pack, and that you respect others by not using it inside
the hut. Most people go to the huts to get away from phones!
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What
is the check in/check out time?
Hut turn around time is 1:00 pm. Please be considerate of other
hut users by not arriving before 1:00 pm, and by having the hut
clean and your bags packed before this time on the day of your
departure.
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Can
I get a private room?
Going to the huts is an experience in communal living, and there
are often several different groups at a hut each night. When you
make a reservation, you are reserving sleeping space in a hut,
not specific beds or rooms. You'll choose a place to sleep or
work out sleeping arrangements with the other people at the hut
when you arrive. Some huts have a few bedrooms with more privacy,
but you cannot reserve these specific rooms in advance.
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Do any
of the huts have hot tubs or saunas?
None of the huts have hot tubs, but there are wood burning saunas
at a few of the huts including Shrine Mountain Inn,
Janet's Cabin, and Francie's Cabin. The sauna at Shrine Mountain
Inn is located between and shared by Chuck's and Jay's Cabins,
and is for the use of guest at all three Shrine Mountain Inn cabins.
Due to a fire, there is no longer a sauna at Polar Star Inn.
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Can
I take my dog on the hut trip?
No. Dogs are not permitted on summer or winter hut trips, nor
are dogs allowed in the huts or in the area around the hut. Since
you must melt snow for water at most of the huts, dogs present
a serious health hazard. In addition, we are very concerned about
the problem of dogs harassing wildlife. 10th Mountain and the
U. S. Forest Service take this rule very seriously and we ask
that hut users help us encourage compliance. Please notify 10th
Mountain if a party brings a dog to any of the huts.
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What
do we do for water?
Winter hut users will find large pots at the huts for melting
snow. We advise that parties clean and refill snowmelt pots upon
arrival at the hut, and snowmelt water should be treated or filtered
before drinking.
In the summer, water backpacks are provided
for collecting water from springs and streams. All water should
be treated or filtered before drinking. Distances to water sources
vary from hut to hut (see below). All huts have water sources
within two miles and many have sources much closer. Consult a
topographic map of the area for water source locations.
The Shrine Mountain Inn (Jay's, Chuck's and
Walter's Cabins) is an exception and has potable hot and cold
running water year round.
The Benedict Huts, Eiseman Hut, Fowler-Hilliard
Hut, Jackal Hut, 10th Mountain Division Hut, Uncle Bud's Hut,
Skinner Hut, Betty Bear Hut and Sangree M. Froelicher Huts have pumps in the
kitchens which bring up water that is collected from the roof
and stored in cisterns below the floor. This water is recommended
for washing only and should not be used for drinking or cooking.
Availability of this water is dependent on precipitation and conservation
by previous users, so please do not rely on there being water
in the cistern.
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How far away from
the huts are the summer water sources?
Approximate distances to water sources are as follows. These distances
are to the sources nearest to the huts that typically are available
throughout the summer. In cases of severe drought, sources could
be unavailable. Similarly, in very wet years or early in the summer,
additional water sources may be available. Please see the individual
hut descriptions in the Huts & Routes section (see main menu
above) of this site for more specific information.
Water at or very near the hut: Shrine Mountain
Inn (Jay's, Chucks & Walter's) Polar Star Inn, Francie's Cabin,
Peter Estin Hut
- 1/4 mile: Margy's Hut, Betty Bear Hut
- 1/2 mile: Vance's Hut, 10th Mountain Division
Hut, Uncle Bud's Hut, Eiseman Hut, Sangree M. Froelicher Hut
- 1.5 miles: Harry Gates Hut, Fowler-Hilliard
Hut
- 2 miles: Jackal Hut, Skinner Hut
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Can
we build an outdoor fire or cook out in the summer?
All of the huts that are open in the summer have metal fire pits
with grates, except for Francie's Cabin. Colorado summers can
be very dry and the US Forest Service will issue a fire ban when
conditions become dangerous. It is your responsibility to find
out in advance if there is a ban in effect. Forest Service Ranger
District numbers are provided on the summer information sheet
sent out with all summer reservations. 10th Mountain will occasionally
close the fire pits at the huts. In extreme fire conditions, additional
restrictions, such as closure of the wood burning stoves inside
the huts, may be in place. Please respect any closure signs.
The process of buying, delivering, cutting,
splitting, and stacking wood is expensive and takes the time of
many volunteers. With the help of hut users, the maintenance costs
and environmental impacts of cutting and burning firewood can
be reduced. Please help us conserve wood!
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What is the reservation
lottery?
The lottery is a system of early reservations intended to fairly
allocate limited winter hut space. The lottery occurs each March
for the following winter season. All 10th Mountain members are
eligible to submit one lottery entry form each year for the opportunity
to book one trip itinerary. One member may book an itinerary that
consists of multiple consecutive nights and may reserve for a
group of people. For more information on 10th Mountain membership
and the reservation lottery, please use the link on the menu at
the top of this page.
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What is the Backcountry
Snowsports Intiative?
The Backcountry Snowsports Initiative (BSI) of the non-profit Colorado Mountain Club was formed to protect the interests of human-powered backcountry snowsports like skiing, snowboarding and snowshoeing. The BSI’s mission is to preserve quiet, non-motorized areas on public land for non-motorized winter users. BSI works collaboratively with land management agencies, other advocacy organizations and user groups to find policy solutions at Vail Pass, Rabbit Ears Pass, Red Mountain and other popular areas around Colorado. For more information, visit the BSI blog at http://www.backcountryinitiative... or their website here, http://www.cmc.org/conservation...
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Who
uses the 10th Mountain Huts?
A great variety of people use the huts. Some groups use guides,
others travel on their own with family and friends. Because
the huts are used communally, please show respect for the people
sharing the hut with your group. If you prefer a private trip,
please reserve one of our smaller huts that sleep 6 guests,
or reserve an entire hut. 10th Mountain works closely with not-for-profit
groups, the young, and the elderly. For more information on
10th Mountain's support of these groups, please check out our
Backcountry Exploration Program in the Programs section of
this site (see menu at upper left).
10th Mountain Division and
Summit Huts Associations, Alfred A. Braun Hut System, and
Friends Hut operate under special use permits from the US
Forest Service, and are equal opportunity service providers.
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